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Post by imayne on Feb 16, 2003 3:30:51 GMT -5
Any of you have dream roles for Ms Ryder, I'd like to know. Roles you'd want her to play, based on books read, or remakes of foreign films seen etc..
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Post by Charles on Feb 16, 2003 10:15:23 GMT -5
Hi Imayne,
I'm a big fan of spy thrillers and would love to see Winona to do a remake of "The Counterfeit Traitor," in which she plays the William Holden role. Or something along those lines.
Cheers,
Charles
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Post by Katie on Feb 17, 2003 1:57:22 GMT -5
No offense Charles but I've actually kind of had it with the usual book to screen and remakes, at least for now. In saying that, I have to tell the truth that I have never seen the film you mentioned. I'll have to give it a look. Getting back to what imayne asked. By the way, hello imayne, I'm Katie and welcome to Charles's domain.  I would really love to see Winona in something new and fresh. Don't get me wrong, if a really great book adaptation or remake of a classic film that was too good to pass up came by Winona's way then I'm all for it. For now though, wouldn't you like to be completely, wonderfully surprised by something you've never heard of or seen before? What that is though, I don't know. Of course again, something great and worthwhile. |
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Post by imayne on Feb 17, 2003 5:16:24 GMT -5
The thing is that there have been lots of great films Americans haven't seen, that are coming out of late, South Korea and Thailand and two of the places where such great movies are coming out. South Korea has been emerging as a cinematic force in Asia of late, taking over the once-prosperous Hong Kong and Taiwan film industries, and cutting it almost neck-to-neck with its neighbor Japan. It is a cinema both diverse in output and high in quality. From art films to comedies to blockbusters that are as flag-waving as anything America can offer, South Korean cinema is probably the most exciting on the planet at the moment. Directors as commercial as they are artistic, who redefine intelligent blockbusters. You find them in South Korea. Charles, I know you are a fan of Kurosawa, so here's the English website for the Korean epic that Zhang Ziyi starred in, which has outgrossed "Crouching Tiger" in France: www.cjent.co.kr/English/ProductList/musa/index.aspOne of my dream roles for Ryder would be a piece like this set in the Old West or medieval Spain. I mean, TELL ME this stuff doesn't deserve to be seen or remade. I've bought the freakin' disc already.And all Hollywood can come up with is THE FOUR FEATHERS? Please! That's why I say some films like these may have to be remade, like THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN was a remake. And like THE RING was a remake.If that is the only way to get them noticed. Another one of these would be another Korean film called the Last Witness, but that will be another story. |
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Post by David Foxx on Feb 17, 2003 5:17:21 GMT -5
I would like to see Winona play the part of Julia in 1984.It was written by Geogre Orwell.She a mysterious woman who has a mysterious beauty.
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Post by Charles on Feb 17, 2003 9:24:04 GMT -5
Hi Folks,
Very interesting thoughts . . . Katie, the "Counterfeit Traitor" was based on a true story of counterespionage during World War II, both the book and the movie were derived from actual events. Imayne, thanks for the Kurosawa link and your interesting posts on Asian film making. And David, interesting choice of 1984. I suppose in this day and age the story would have to be allegorical, with a revised topic date.
My guess is that Winona's next great film will be a "sleeper," she'll pick it wisely and the rest of us won't be able to anticipate its greatness. I can't wait . . .
Cheers,
Charles
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Post by imayne on Feb 17, 2003 12:05:00 GMT -5
That was not a Kurosawa link, but a link to a movie that I think Kurosawa might have loved to see made. They oughta consider a Hollywood remake of that, really.
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Post by Charles on Feb 17, 2003 14:03:21 GMT -5
Hi Imayne,
I wasn't sure which movie you were referring to, but I assume it was MUSA, The Warrior. I don't know whether it was translation, but there certainly was no shortage of superlatives.
Cheers,
Charles
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Post by imayne on Feb 18, 2003 9:52:21 GMT -5
Yes, that's the one. Nearly everybody I knew who saw it loved it. And oh, forgive those Korean film companies. It's how they make up for the awkward English, but man, was the film good.
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Post by ilovewinona on Feb 18, 2003 10:08:21 GMT -5
Winona's dream roles? I've sat here half an hour looking through my list of my most enjoyable movies and I've come to the conclusion that my choice of dream roles for Winona are my favorite films of Winona that she has done already.  ------- But of one of my all time favorite films, "Thelma and Louise" I wonder if Winona could of done as great a job in the movie as Geena Davis did in her role in the movie. ------  Rusty |
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Post by bigdaddy on Feb 18, 2003 10:18:48 GMT -5
There are 2 short stories Ms. Ryder should seriously think of doing, both written by Theodore Sturgeon. The first is "The Education of Drusilla Strange". It's science fiction, but hold your fire. Ryder would play the title heroine who has been put on earth for her crimes for a 1000 years. (We are sort of a cosmic prison planet but don't know it). Sturgeon has her walk out of the water stark naked after the ship dumps her off the coast. The other attraction is the growth the character goes through from resentfull exile to wanting to help the earthlings and realizing that since she IS going to be here for a millenium, she has a job to do, and can't get bogged down with attactments, and has to keep on going...
The second is called "Maturity". Ms. Ryder can play either Dr. Margaretta Wenzell, or Robin English. The doctor is trying to help English, a genius who is stuck in a body that won't grow...her treatment works, but she can't slow it down...in the book English is a guy. Winona could play him and still make it stick. It is beautiful and optimistic and made for her. If you don't cry at the end of "Maturity" or at least come away in awe, I'm taking back the ring.
Count me in as another lover of Kurosawa. My favorite moment came years ago when I was trapped into seeing Whitney Houston in "The Bodyguard" and they play a piece of Kurosawa's "Yojimbo (The Bodyguard)" in the middle of it. "Hey, that's Kurosawa!!" I told my date "Now there, THERE is a REAL movie."
Of course, at that moment, Toshiro chops off the guys arm and the audience all turns and looks at me like I am Charles Manson...I couldn't help it..I roared..
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Post by imayne on Feb 18, 2003 11:01:56 GMT -5
Then you better see my link to MUSA then, and hopefully try to get it from a Chinatown or Little Korea video store if you can, cos it's worth it. This is the movie Kurosawa would have made if he lived with today's special effects and cinematographic advances. It's a real whopper, and the climactic battle (think the Alamo, but bigger) is a real keeper, the stuff cinematic legends are made of.
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Post by Pierpaolo on Feb 22, 2003 23:40:37 GMT -5
WR' s dream role? Well, Eliza Doolittle |
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Post by imayne on Feb 27, 2003 5:52:07 GMT -5
Some roles that might fit her, since this column has long been unfilled.
A remake of the Korean film "Last Witness", about a cop that stumbles on a murder case leading back to an incident during the Korean War, uncovering a tragic love story. We could set this to WWII or the Cold War.
The female role in that film needed to undergo a makeup transformation spanning 50 years, WR may just need that too to make people see her in a different light.
Katherine McCormick in a film of "Riven Rock", the novel by T Coraghessan Boyle, who's read it here? The novel is a powerful and well-told yarn of love, mental illness and the dark side of the American Dream. So far Boyle hasn't been treated well by Hollywood, his only film adaptation being "The Road to Wellville" by Alan Parker. But he's a fine writer still, and "Riven Rock", I think, deserves to be told.
Misato Katsuragi (maybe renamed Melissa Katz?) in James Cameron's rumored film adaptation of the Japanese animated series Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Queen Emeraldas in an adaptation of the Japanese animated series "Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years". James Caviezel would be a good Harlock.
Come to think of it, any future attempt to adapt Japanese comic books and cartoons should seriously consider her for parts in them. If anything, Winona's fits the aesthetic of the Japanese animator and his obsessions with doe-eyed, slender and ethereal sylphs almost perfectly.
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Post by Charles on Feb 27, 2003 11:37:31 GMT -5
Hi Imayne,
I was most intrigued by your description of "Riven Rock." I haven't read it but your characterization as a powerful and well-told yarn of love, mental illness and the dark side of the American Dream is devilishly tempting. Passion and pathos with a hint of Noir, sign me up!!!
Cheers,
Charles
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I would really love to see Winona in something new and fresh. Don't get me wrong, if a really great book adaptation or remake of a classic film that was too good to pass up came by Winona's way then I'm all for it. For now though, wouldn't you like to be completely, wonderfully surprised by something you've never heard of or seen before? What that is though, I don't know. Of course again, something great and worthwhile.
------- But of one of my all time favorite films, "Thelma and Louise" I wonder if Winona could of done as great a job in the movie as Geena Davis did in her role in the movie. ------ 
Rusty