Ryan Adams on dating Winona

[Whispering]

Here are quotes from Ryan Adams(lucky bastard) taken from various interviews on his relationship with Winona.

"I made an ignorant choice of girlfriend
I met this famous person and thought, 'I'll date her!' But all we did was torture each other, it was really silly. I don't know what I was doing with her in the first place."


''Hey, sweetie,'' Ryan Adams coos into a cell phone. ''It's Ryan. If you want to meet tonight I'll be at my place.'' Adams is leaving a voice-mail for a movie star. A really famous movie star. One he used to date. And no, he won't reveal who it is. At least not yet. ''I went to Los Angeles and fell madly in love with her,'' he says. ''It was the worst decision of my entire life. It all fell apart. It isn't that we were bad for each other. It's like, she's no good for the world, and neither am I. I always get s--- like 'Ryan's a f---ing drunk, Ryan's a f---up,' whatever. That might be true, but I'm also an intelligent person. She gets s--- as well. She's a f---up? So what if she's a f---up. Everyone's a f---up.'' So who, exactly, are we talking about, Ryan? ''I'm not going to say.''

“I mean, everyone knows I dated Winona Ryder. Big f---ing deal. Who would not? I really like her. She's actually a very nice person. She's nothing like anybody thinks. She's a normal girl with normal girl problems who talks about normal girl things, who needs a guy, needs her hand held, needs to walk across a f---ing street. So what if she dates musicians. She likes music!”


And there's ''Suicide Handbook'' -- inspired, he says, by an ill-fated fling with a starlet (It's obvious it's Winona)

“Suicide Handbook' included songs like ['Demolition''s] 'She Wants to Play Hearts' and 'Cry on Demand,''' Adams says. ''I don't think you have to throw a f---ing penny to f---ing find out what that's about. 'Cry on Demand'...acting...hello? I love the line 'She dies every night with her face on the news/Nobody cries, they just smoke and stare at their shoes.' That's how I really felt about her. And then, weirdly, s--- happened and she was in the news.'' Okay, really, WHO are we talking about?”

In his recent album "Gold" Adams thanks Winona for inspiring him.

[ilovewinona]

Whispering, Great article about Ryan Adams. ----- What I would really like to hear someday is Winona has finally found Mr. Right and is going to be married. Because in a few articles years ago she talked about having a family and settling down. She talked so seriously about it back then, but I guess her priorities have changed over the years. ------ Rusty

[Chriss]

Thanks for the article.. great =)...

Oh yes, Rusty..I agree... It would make me so happy to see Winona finding the man of her life and settle down... She really deserves the best there is..

[ilovewinona]

Chriss, You are a real Winona fan, hoping the best for Winona!!! She has given us so many enjoyable hours with her lovely image on film, we all can only wish the best for her. I hope Winona can find the man who will help her get her act together in this, her very troubling times. ----- Rusty

[Charles]

Hi Whisperer,

Thanks for the article. It does provide insight into Winona, and Ryan. I think Ryan is a VERY talented songwriter, although I find his personal style a bit annoying. Sounds like his relationship with Winona was in one of her deeply low spells, being torturous and all.

Hopefully, as she starts feeling better she will make more considered choices and find that guy that can really be a soulmate and provide lots of support. She needs to get beyond the neurotic young musician thing . . . she is a very worldly, international movie icon and it would be nice for her to hook up with someone of the same stature. The young rockers certainly don't fill that bill, with the possible exception of Dave Grohl.

Just like a father, nobody is good enough for my girl!!!!

Cheers,
Charles


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[john]

Hi Charles,

Just like a father, nobody is good enough for my girl!!!!

This man should be like the writer David Foster Wallace.
I think that's her level!

Bye
john

[Charles]

Hi John,

DFW would be a great example. An important American novelist, about her age, obviously gifted like Winona. Someone should make the introduction.

Cheers,
Charles


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[Chriss]

Hehe.. Thanks Rusty ... I really love that woman.. She's outstanding amazing.. like you put it so nice 'Beyond Compare' ... that is true.. I've never "known", even in rl a human being with such great personality and beauty as Winona..

I really wish her all the best .. she deserves nothing less.. If there were anything I could do to help ... :/

[ilovewinona]

Chriss, "Beyond Compare" is the two words which I won with in a contest "Bigbigs" started at the website "And God Created Noni" months ago. The contest was describe Winona in two words. ---------------------------- Charles, since I'm nearly old as you, I thought it would be great if Winona had to get both our blessings before she decided to get married. We could do something like Robert DeNiro in "Meet the Parents" ------ that is such a funny movie. ----- Rusty

[Charles]

Hi Rusty,

Absolutely, the prospective groom should come to us to ask for Winona's hand in marriage. Although that is much more altruistic than I am by nature . . . I would be inclined to deny the guy and make a play for the lady myself. ;D

Cheers,
Charles


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[bigdaddy]

We must not overlook the real reason their relationship was doomed. Now, I rarely speak of religious things, but now is the time. Cub Koda, a Boston diety that Charles can tell you all about, said it best in his ten commandments of Rock, found in Dave Marsh's "Rock Lists'. The commandment I speak of is, "Never trust any band that doesn't play Chuck Berry". I don't know anything about this guy...it is not like he is going to duet with B.B. King or Bob Cray anytime soon. But I think it is safe to bet the farm that this man does NOT play Chuck Berry. When I showed Baby Brother his lyric about Ms. Ryder, he said something about pulling a better one out of ..well,this is still a family web site.
Sure, he could buy her the expensive imported steak sauces, and the orthotic shoe inserts that are custom made. But he was NOT approrpriately GRATEFUL for his good luck. If, for instance, Charles was allowed for one night, to drive Ms. Ryder around in his wonderful red work of automotive art, then every man for himself, I guess by the end of the night he would throw up his arms and say;"Sell my clothes, I am going to Heaven!!"
Chuck Berry knew that there were cars, and there were girls and there was good rock and roll. All three should be celebrated. Enjoyed. Treasured. I also know despite her beauty and talent that Winona is underneath it all a woman and doesn't need to be on a pedestal. But holy Kate Smith on a mountain, if you can't enjoy yourself, get the heck out and stop making others miserable.
The more I know about this talented young lady, the more I respect her. I mean the stuff she has to go through to get a little, and the crap she has to put up with just to earn a living.
Maybe a committe of us should be allowed to screen the dates for proper attitude and healthy
respect and just GENERAL FIT. I feel such a committee could have also saved Ben Affleck a whole hell of a lot of heartbreak and time. And money.

[Charles]

Hi Big Daddy,

I second that motion!!! A committee it shall be. And of course you're right about Mr. Adams and Chuck Berry, no chance in hell. He can write a good tune, but he certainly isn't adequately grateful for his circumstances.

Yep . . . stars, cars, and guitars!!!

Cheers,
Charles


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[robbyhart]

It sounds to me, from all that I have heard and read, that Winona never met a band she didn't like. I even heard that she is a big fan of one of my favorite bands (ok, my absolute favorite band) the Strokes. I think Winona behaves as if she were 10 years younger than she is. I think she needs to realize that she is no longer the hippest thing going and that she needs to stop pathetically trying to be cool and just grow up a little bit. I mean, she is 31 and she still tries to be cool like these 20 years olds now. And she has become a joke in that dating Winona Ryder has become the hipness seal of approval for any new musician. The way she chases these musicians, she has become a caricature. I think Winona is beautiful and obviously talented, but her personal life is another story.

[Charles]

Hi RobbyHart,

You've touched on a subject that we all studiously avoid. Surely, Winona is a big music fan, always has been, and she seems to have good taste in bands. However, the string of rockers to me smacks of another compulsive behavior . . . of a sexual nature.

Of course there is no way for me to know this and my saying this might be decidedly unpopular. However, frequently compulsive shopping/shoplifting and drug abuse can be accompanied by sexual compulsion. I don't think this is either good or bad, but rather just a related problem. If she gets good psychiatric help this compulsion should diminish along with her other compulsive behaviors.

So I don't see her social proclivities as a conscious effort on her part to be cool. I think that she just needs some help in confronting her cluster of personal problems. We all have problems and neither her talent nor her beauty exempt her from this. We as fans just need to stick by her while she weathers this storm.

Cheers,
Charles


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[Whispering]

Charles, are you implying that perhaps Winona is promiscuous?? your right Charles, this is a very touchy subject and one that is hard to discuss and understand.

compulsivity/sexual addiction is often misrepresented in the public because people generally associated this addiction with many negative connotations. If Winona does have a sexual compulsion/addiction perhaps it has a lot to do with her upbringing and growing up on a hippie communion where there was a lot of "free love," she was perhaps encouraged to be very sexually free.