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Post by ilovewinona on Oct 17, 2003 8:41:54 GMT -5
Vote for Winona's movie "Bram Stoker's Dracula" ------ Rusty
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Post by Jen on Oct 17, 2003 9:52:21 GMT -5
never seen it, probly never gonna. SCARY!!! :-*smooches; ~Jen~
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Post by Charles on Oct 17, 2003 11:21:06 GMT -5
I'm in dangerous territory here, because I only voted it as "good," while I know many of you loved this movie. I very definitely like Winona performance, as well as that of most of the actors, but the directing and editing seemed ponderous to me. Even the costumes didn't seem to be all from the same era. While these aren't life or death issues, they were enough to keep it from being an "excellent" in my book.
Cheers, Charles
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Post by hugobolso on Oct 17, 2003 16:49:04 GMT -5
I'm in dangerous territory here, because I only voted it as "good," while I know many of you loved this movie. I very definitely like Winona performance, as well as that of most of the actors, but the directing and editing seemed ponderous to me. Even the costumes didn't seem to be all from the same era. While these aren't life or death issues, they were enough to keep it from being an "excellent" in my book. Cheers, Charles . I agree totally with you that the directing and editing seem ponderous, but this i the reason why Dracula is my favourite movie, not on ly noni movie, my personal favourite of all time. There isn't yet a movie that is as sontuos as Bram Stocker Dracula . But i understand that not the people like the movie because of that. The big critic to Dracula is that was too sunuos where should be more scarier. Dracula was nominated to 4 Academy Awards and won 3. However the 3 things that I liked most weren't nominated. (that were the script by J. H Hart, the soundtrack by Wolchar Killar or something like that AND OF COURSE WINONA)
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Post by bigdaddy on Oct 17, 2003 22:35:31 GMT -5
The highest grossing horror movie for a while. I always remember what Martin Landau said in "Ed Wood": 'If you want to make out with a girl, take her to see Dracula..heh, heh, heh..." And doggone it, it HAS set the mood. Winona hates her performance in it, I have run into girls who just BREAK DOWN during it... ....and I have many fond memories because of it... 7.5 out of 10. Do not own. Have given it away as gifts many times. When I want to see it, I go to somebody else's house..
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Post by Charles on Oct 17, 2003 22:57:34 GMT -5
Hugobolso,
Dracula won three Academy Awards? Someone refresh my memory . . .
Chas
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Post by Zooey on Oct 18, 2003 3:52:53 GMT -5
Hi Charles, hugobolso is right. Bram Stoker's Dracula won oscars for costume design, sound effect and makeup. Here's a link to verify
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Post by Charles on Oct 18, 2003 7:22:17 GMT -5
Thanks Zooey, How did I miss THAT? Chas .
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Post by ilovewinona on Oct 18, 2003 9:31:29 GMT -5
Charles, just because you voted only "good" for Dracula doesn't mean anything against your love of Winona. ---- In a couple of the polls I will be making in the near future I expect a few votes that will be less than excellent. ----- Just as long as we love Winona as an actress. ----- Rusty
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Post by vulcannonibird on Nov 4, 2003 3:21:15 GMT -5
the movie is really excellent... especially noni and gary oldman are acting extreme...but the whole crew and cast is great. the best dracula-movie next to "Nosferatu".... and in this movie noni is IMO most gorgeous and sexy...
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Post by !~DarkAngel~! on Dec 23, 2003 18:21:53 GMT -5
she is wicked in it but i was when i heard about coppola calling her names
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Post by imayne on Dec 23, 2003 19:34:59 GMT -5
Coppola as a director I'm mixed towards, on the one hand he gave us the greatest film trilogy of our time (no, NOT STAR WARS!) but then nearly three decades later he also gives us the Robin Williams vehicle JACK, proving no God exists...in recent years he has turned more to producing while staying based in the Bay Area with his Zoetrope Studios.
He actually did not call Noni names for no good reason, it was to elicit certain emotions that he wanted from the actors in a particular scene. It was brutal, yes, but it was his way of getting the job done.
And Charles, to me the costuming was no gripe because I tend to view Dracula as the longest and most adult Disney cartoon ever made, I mean it's an evil and decadent "Beauty and the Beast". Noni's always been great around monsters for some reason, Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, the part-Alien Ripley clone, Jason Dean, there perhaps is this aura about her that makes you feel that she could perhaps redeem the freakiest of freaks.
But one scene that always gets me is when Mina dismisses the "amazing cinematograph", thinking that it wouldn't catch on and not knowing it would be a multi-billion dollar industry in a century's time. I always crack up at that point.
Arguably its own cinematic follower, Tom Cruise's "Interview With The Vampire" also cracks me up as well when Pitt's Louis dismisses " Dracula" as the "ramblings of a mad Irishman"...
Though one thing about the film that has become funnier in recent years, the fact that Monica Bellucci was one of the vampire brides, and that around a decade later she would show up to tempt Keanu again in "Matrix Reloaded"...I would have loved Keanu in the later film to go,
"Haven't...I...seen...you...somewhere?"
In his typical non-acting tone.
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Post by lia on Dec 24, 2003 4:16:30 GMT -5
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Post by imayne on Dec 24, 2003 5:07:25 GMT -5
Yep, judging by what I read on Jeremy Whelan's page, Oldman is probably a specializer in "emotional recall", while Noni mostly uses empathy as her main tool, which was why she needed the famous Method acting procedures to get into a woman so much before her time.
Interestingly, Dante Ferretti went on to do Dracula's direct cinematic descendant, "Interview with the Vampire". The thing is that this movie did start off a bloodline (pun fully intended) of films that continues today and average around one a year, horror films that don't really focus on scares as much but play more like adult and erotic cartoons/comic books, often with whimsical touches:
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE JOHN CARPENTER'S "VAMPIRES" BLADE (where it cross-bred with the martial arts film) BLADE 2 QUEEN OF THE DAMNED UNDERWORLD (again, a martial arts film crossbreed)
Distant relatives include MARY REILLY and FRANKENSTEIN. And a cousin twice removed might be LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN.
And in 2004, VAN HELSING would get the superhero treatment in a film starring Hugh Jackman.
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Post by kostas on Dec 24, 2003 5:39:46 GMT -5
One of my top five favorite Winona films.
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